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The Exciting Reality of the Afterlife Rejected by Closed Minded Skeptics

Listening to actual recorded descriptions of “the undiscovered country” through the direct voice mediumship of Leslie Flint is always incredible, thrilling, breathtaking, and astounding. When I first heard some of this material I could not contain my excitement, I became a raving maniac and to the annoyance of my associates, it was all I could talk about for weeks! It is so fantastic! It is so much like being in “The Twilight Zone” or in some other science fiction program, or seeing for the first time full color panoramic photos of another planet, or realizing that a miracle of biblical proportions just took place as if Moses himself just came back and divided the Red Sea again. In fact Saint Matthew himself did come back to speak.

Then again, I was just as dumbfounded by the almost universal lack of interest, and sometimes even complete rejection, fear and/or hatred of this subject of spiritualism. I have no doubt whatsoever of Leslie Flint’s mediumship, and the only real darkness in this world comes from the darkness of those who’s belief systems are too closed-minded, materialistic and restricted to know the real truth. Don’t you just “love” those closed-minded materialistic skeptical debunker “professors” who always seem to “officially” condemn a subject without first carefully studying it? They have to be the ultimate practitioners of “professional” mental laziness! There is nothing wrong with being skeptical, in fact it is healthy to be that way and we need to be very careful when it comes to accepting what others say and their opinions. It becomes a problem only when one gets too closed minded, or outright cynical to the point where the possibility of gaining vital knowledge or a tremendous discovery on the frontier of science is permanently closed off. Any extraordinary claim or phenomenon of a spiritual or paranormal nature needs to be investigated thoroughly and objectively without the distortions of a prejudiced, closed minded, and materialistic attitude.

“Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.” – Albert Einstein

Apparently, even Albert Einstein hated prejudiced debunkers. Anyway, I can now confidently enjoy the excitement, awe and wonder of learning everything I can about this amazing “undiscovered country” that lies beyond all the horizons of our physical reality here on Earth. Now that I have been listening to the “Leslie Flint” voices for several months, I fully realize the sheer enormity and gravity of the need to establish communication between the worlds as easily as calling someone in a different country would have to be the greatest breakthrough in the history of humankind. This possibility is not science fiction or some far-fetched fantasy.

The afterlife is as real as you and I and in many ways is even more real because of its finer nature, intelligence, texture and subtlety of consciousness. Therefore, the astral planes are not at all the dreamy, fairylike, wishy-washy worlds often populated with the spaced-out beings that are described by so many popular authors and books on the subject.

Those who have written about their astral travels to these planes are often limited in their descriptions because the physical and astral brains operate on a different level and so much gets lost in the translation to physical memory that the subconscious mind and dream states get in the way. I do a little astral projection myself, but tend to forget most of it! In spite of all these difficulties, astral projection can still be a reliable and wondrous way to discover what the truth is regarding the afterlife.

The reason the astral and spiritual worlds are far more natural, free, superior, alive, and comprehensive than anyone or anything on Earth is that the reality of the afterlife consists of much finer atoms, particles, energies, higher dimensions, and intelligent laws and forces than all the heavier, more massive and awkward material atoms and laws of physics physical things are made from and subject to. Life on Earth is only a pale reflection of the life to come. Far from being the highest, the physical level is actually one of the crudest levels of existence there is. There are many, much higher and finer levels of existence or vibration (spheres) to ascend into, and endless numbers of places, things to do, discover and explore, and vast amounts of information on every subject available and an expansion of awareness and knowledge that goes way beyond materialistic, earthly concepts and understanding.

An Absolutely Natural, Complete and Profoundly Fulfilling Existence

These vast, and often inconceivable worlds are filled with absolute thrills and marvels many of which, especially on the higher planes are very hard to describe, in fact are too beautiful to describe. The planes or spheres of existence closest to Earth tend to be the easiest to describe in terms the average person can comprehend. But there is much activity and amazing civilizations on all spheres, on all levels. There are beautiful cities, towns, villages, art colonies, art galleries, movie theaters, stages, operas, museums, schools, stores (not commercial), libraries, vast natural landscapes, continents, forests, gardens, huge flowers, very tame loving animals, mountains, meadows, plains, seas, boats, ships, yachts, lakes, waterfalls, and anything and everything else really wonderful and good that one can imagine and not imagine. (God I wish I could go there, take some photos, come back and upload them to this website!)

Regarding what it is exactly like to live in the higher spheres: imagine all the above but with an extra dimension or dimensions added, with even more colors along with even higher and deeper levels of sensitivity, sophistication, beauty, love, opportunity, and levels of consciousness with the absolute beauties of nature multiplied hundreds and hundreds of times over evolving on to infinity. No mystic teaching or religion can or has correctly foretold the actual experiences we will all one day so intensely enjoy! God knows how much I have distorted it in my own feeble attempts to describe it. Trying to explain this form of existence is even harder than trying to talk about colors with a blind person, because there are so many new levels of experience that these souls are trying to convey that simply do not exist in the limited materialistic terms and concepts that we on Earth are stuck with. Many of the souls would never want to go back to live on Earth which is in comparison to heaven, a very limited, elementary, primitive state of life indeed.

The Colors Are Far More Vivid, Extensive and Varied

In the astral worlds the souls often marvel at all the new colors they can see! They say they can perceive and enjoy many new colors in nature that go far beyond the physical spectrum and some souls have counted as many as 77 colors. I am assuming that this phenomenon of advanced and extended color perception is due to a remarkable extension of visual sensitivity beyond violet into much higher frequencies of light such as UV, X-rays, and gamma rays and perhaps even into the lower wave-lengths beyond the red spectrum as well such as infrared and microwaves, etc. but I am even less sure of this, as I would suppose perception is much more likely extended only toward the higher end of the electromagnetic spectrum rather than the lower end, as souls often say they are much more aware of higher vibrations rather than lower ones.

Eating and Sleeping in the Afterlife

One man, Sid Hopkins, in a rather humorous account of the afterlife, said his first experience right after dying was finding himself comfortably sitting in a parlor of a lovely, familiar place being served with a cup of tea by his wife who had died 15 years ago, yet looked like she was in her early twenties. At least two other times in the seances, a certain individual was welcomed to his new life with either a beautiful young woman or one’s very lovely wife wearing a beautiful outfit serving tea! And in yet another seance it was a lovely woman serving a glass of lemonade from a freshly squeezed lemon! Yes, new arrivals to the spiritual life are often warmly welcomed with food and/or beverages by deceased relatives and/or friends looking many years younger and in a posh setting. One would often “live” on a light diet or fruit, soups and/or teas, etc. before realizing that eating and drinking is no longer really needed or necessary and is just a condition of mental habit however strong and real it may seem at first. Instead of possibly starving or feeling hungry, one should continue to eat a little at first anyway until one no longer feels the need. Many souls even after years of astral life still on social occasions like to eat and serve light snacks, beverages and fruit. I have not yet heard of heavier foods such as meat and/or fish being served, but if they could imagine it, I suppose they could.

There are periods of twilight and restfulness that souls enjoy but no actual night or darkness except in the lower spheres. Those who first enter the afterlife often go through a deep, rejuvenating sleep lasting for several days, depending on the need and development of the individual. After that deep rest, one never really sleeps again except after many, many years later in preparation to enter into yet a higher sphere at the end of their interests and activities in a lower sphere. They can and often do come back to the lower sphere(s) to teach and share spiritual truths.

Natural Realities Molded by Thought

There may very well be certain forms of trade and/or barter in the various conditions of life, cultures, etc. found on some of the lower spheres, but I have yet to hear of anything to do with the actual existence of money, accounting systems, or banking, etc. An economic system is not at all needed on the astral planes because one’s character, thoughts, karmic conditions, powerful innate creative abilities, and mental/emotional outlook seem to create and/or attract whatever is needed. One’s desires, level of intelligence, mental/emotional outlook, and heartfelt motives determine exactly what one does, experiences and gets to have in the way of companions, housing, land, personal items, and clothing (which often resembles Roman togas and/or Grecian robes, etc.) The astral worlds seem to be a dynamic mixture of completely real, natural, material, objective realities yet strongly influenced or molded by creative, positive thought forces or intentions. This is how everything natural in the way it was experienced on Earth is uniformly combined with the most perfect circumstances and joy and happiness possible. It is quite remarkable.

All souls ultimately evolve into ever more beautiful states of existence. The spirits often say it is a perfect world and they have never, ever been happier and to never fear dying because dying is absolutely the best thing that had ever happened to them! They are quite content and are often bewildered when told that there will always be even more beautiful, even lovelier, higher places or spheres they can evolve and move into.

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Life in the Finer Realms Beyond the Veil of Death – Part 2

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Life in the astral spheres is far more varied and complete than life on Earth. Some spheres nearest the earth plane are so similar to Earth that much of what one can experience there resembles very much the same conditions as Earth, such as cloudy weather, rain, snow, wind, night and day. On the other hand, some spheres of existence have no resemblance to Earth whatsoever. Some of the highest spheres, for example, are realms of incredible multidimensional light and beauty far beyond anything physical beings are familiar with.

Climates and Geography of the Astral Spheres

There is also air, wind and on some spheres (the spirits say there are thousands of astral worlds or spheres) occasional light rain, dew, mist, and even a light snow in the upper elevations just as happens on Earth. The weather patterns of the astral worlds tend to be mild and never contrary to the needs of the inhabitants. The temperature ranges from mildly cool to comfortably warm depending on the original climate and conditions the inhabitants were most used to on Earth. There are all the same climates and natural conditions of life as found on Earth including deserts, mountain regions, polar regions, forest regions, tropical areas, ocean environments, and land masses ranging from vast continents to beautiful tropical islands.

Many of Leslie Flint’s communicators say they have seen rivers, and lakes with some being quite vast and always quite placid and beautiful in a constantly warm summery afternoon environment. It is possible to go swimming and many souls do. One can also travel by boat or ship, and go diving, etc. One can also drink these pure waters as there is no pollution, bugs or bacteria in the ponds, lakes and rivers to worry about, and no water, air or noise pollution either as there is no need for cars, freeways, sewers and factories. The water is crystalline pure and very desirable to drink. Strangely enough, the souls often say that they can enjoy all the benefits of swimming, bathing, etc. yet are completely dry (even their clothes) the instant they get out!

Imagine an ordinary physical world of three dimensions of space and a fourth of time. Then add a fifth dimension (an extra direction for time and space to expand into) to this picture and then you have a rough idea of what the environment is like in the afterlife. While traveling up through the vibrational spheres (actually takes some practice and experience to do this), the whole landscape can transform into an astonishing variety of geographies, for example, above the location where a vast plain existed, now there’s an alpine forest landscape and running fountains. Before it was misty, now it is cloudless, and billions of subtle colors from the extended atmosphere even further above would be prismatically refracted throughout the whole glorious sky. The astral atmosphere, being much vaster than the Earth’s atmosphere, would appear much deeper and, if there are clouds, would tend to have many more cloud layers.

Regarding the surface of the astral worlds: imagine countless interacting, interconnecting layers of an onion: some below the earth’s surface and many above with each one having a higher and higher rate of vibration and lighter composition than the ones beneath. This rough idea would constitute the spheres of the afterlife existence one encounters. If one could visualize a four-dimensional “earth” this would be very close to actuality. Such a four-dimensional sphere would have to have a three-dimensional “surface” that expands in size as one goes higher and higher up the scale of atomic vibration. Most matter in the universe (see “The True Nature of Dark Matter”) is in fact composed of these finer substances which astronomers throughout the world can see gravitational evidence of in various parts of the distant universe and are still trying to understand what “dark matter” really is. I think it is astral matter.

The Beauty of Astral Nature and Spiritual Utopia

Some trees grow very high and can often be in full bloom and/or produce much fruit. Flowers of all kinds, shapes and sizes exist in the astral worlds and grow in moist soils just like they do on Earth. Because they are living things and very much alive, they are not to be picked and can often grow taller than houses. In fact there are whole forests of very tall flowers growing as tall as trees creating magnificent perfumes that are wafted for miles and miles on mild astral breezes. Gardens and gardening is a very common thing among most of the souls, as most souls who have houses have and enjoy wonderful, lush gardens. Yes, nature is a very real, abundant and natural part of the astral worlds, especially the highest worlds where the beauty of nature becomes almost infinite. In fact the astral worlds are the actual origin of all natural existence, whereas the Earth is just a dim, almost artificial reflection of what nature intends to create and manifest. To think that the physical universe is the only universe is very chauvinistic. Not only are there other existences, but far superior ones as well!

The astral planes are teaming with all sorts of both extinct and presently living plants and animals from Earth. There are no pesky insects, pests or predators whatsoever. (It is possible, however that they do exist on some of the lowest planes or spheres.) The lion definitely sleeps with the lambs and all races, creeds and nationalities definitely live in perfect harmony and peace with one another just as portrayed in those “Jehova’s Witness” illustrations in their international magazines, “Awake!” and “Watchtower.” The funny thing is just how similar the ideal world that the Jehova’s Witness describe is to the actual descriptions by spirits. There are wonderful places or “belief system territories” in the astral worlds where even the “dead” “Jehova’s Witnesses” can hang out still waiting for that ideal new Earth to come even though there is a perfectly good world right in front of their noses completely surrounding them!

Communication With Animals and Singing in an Etheric Atmosphere

Spirits often say that if they tuned into it, there seems to be a soft, soothing, healing vibration or music in the atmosphere generated either by nature and/or creative souls who somehow recorded (left) their songs in the either. One can talk, sing, play instruments, and create sound just like on Earth, yet one can also communicate by thought and most souls quickly find that telepathy is the most efficient way to communicate especially if the other person speaks only Spanish, for instance and you only can speak English. Astonishing as this may sound, telepathic communication between animals and humans is quite easy and common on the astral levels. One spirit who came through Leslie Flint saying he had an amazing “conversation” with his deceased canine pet. Animals can also materialize in seances. During a David Thompson seance held at Mansfield, 10th October, 2007, a dog materialized and started barking!

Another amazing thing is that people who have never learned to read or write properly on Earth often do in the afterlife! There are so many libraries, colleges, schools, etc. on the astral planes to learn such things as well as many other subjects ranging from basic to far beyond the scope and imagination of materiality. Joy, inspiration, breathing and laughter always comes naturally and easily; one always feels light, full or energy, vitality, and one never grows old, ill or suffer from any pains. Breathing the air is a joy, “it is just like wine” says Mary Ivan (near top of list on left) toward the end of her seance. Often the air is filled with perfumes from countless flowers naturally growing in surrounding gardens, fields, etc.

Illumination (Sun?) of the Astral World

The sun still seems to have some kind of effect on the lower astral spheres where souls say there is still a night and a day, fog, rain, etc. On the lowest spheres there seems to be deep fog or darkness created by all the negative thoughts and fears of the materialistically minded physical inhabitants of Earth. However, on the mid to higher astral worlds there seems to be a constant “illumination” or source of very soothing, loving, healing light of a magical and mysterious nature emanating from “God” and/or the higher realms. Souls have reported seeing a mysterious, golden light with increasing brightness toward the horizon. I did hear from some of the Leslie Flint recordings, that there are periods of restfulness and twilight but no actual nights except on the lowest spheres where it can get completely dark. My speculation is that there are probably as many as seven main spheres or heavens (maybe extending hundreds of miles into space?) that are concentric with the earth and rotate along with the physical earth.

Much of the light enjoyed in the astral spheres probably emanates from the outer chromosphere of the sun as a series or layers of etherial “suns” expanding beyond, yet concentric with the physical sun and each one illuminating corresponding astral spheres at its own corresponding level of vibration. After the sun sets over the western horizon, much of its outer chromosphere and especially its extended magnetosphere remains above the horizon most of the night, especially toward the upper and lower latitudes, therefore creating an effect of twilight instead of the complete darkness experienced on Earth. However, the souls also say that the atmospheres of the higher astral spheres extend ever further into space as they increase in vibration, reflecting the sun’s rays back onto the planet no matter what time of the night it is with the effect being that of a long twilight during the night rather than complete darkness. The light or illumination in the higher spheres is quite awesome: something much more vibrant, and far more beautiful than anything experienced on Earth. Sri Yukteswar said in Chapter 43 “The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar” in Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramhansa Yogananda that there are numerous astral luminaries or “suns” that illuminate the astral worlds and endless numbers of astral solar systems floating in space. Astral matter tends to be self-luminescent anyway, especially toward the higher spheres where astral material tends to become brighter, lighter, richer, more colorful, dazzling, multi-dimensional, transparent and more enchanting. I would have to say, things go far beyond description at the highest and most dazzling levels which I would refer to as being the mental, causal and celestial spheres.

Living on Earth in comparison to the higher spheres is like living in a very backward and isolated country where technology has not yet reached its borders. There are other realities of existence far less limiting and challenging than Earth, which is probably one of the most difficult places ever to live. Souls often incarnate on Earth to face challenges they would not otherwise face on higher spheres. Learning that there are so many higher worlds of light and beauty beyond the material realm of Earth can at first be quite startling.

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Love and Death: Bitten – Twilight?

Love stories will always be a tasty part of whatever it is – a movie, a game, or a book. Twilight movies and books has just shook the world, mostly teenage world, with all their vampire thing.  Having that as a background Love and Death: Bitten from PlayFirst fits in very well offering another variation of the vampire love story.

The game is all about a nice story wrapped up in really fairy-tail graphics.

You play as Victoria that happened to be fighting to defeat the vampire Damon. But things got really complicated after she fell for him. Well love played no better trick with Damon himself some time ago. He fell in love with a girl who gave him nothing but turning him into a vampire.

Ever since that terrific change in his life he hasn’t become a “vegetarian” like a vampire family  in Twilight, but instead he was terrorizing the neighboring villages. Having fallen in love with him Victoria is now busy with helping him find the potion to set him free and turn him back to his humanity. That’s in her best interests after all.

After a quick run through town and the local wise woman’s house, you’ll spend much of the game in the witch Celeste’s castle, finding the keys Damon needs to unlock his salvation.

You will have to play in turns switching between Damon and Victoria. That is because each of them is better at certain activities unlike the other one. Like Damon doesn’t do well with sunshine, and Victoria isn’t that good at flying way up.

The hidden object parts happen only when a crow brings you a list of items to find. The list usually gives you twelve items to find. Some of those are multiple and some include some kind of action.

The game features really nice puzzles to solve. Some of them can be skipped though. Sometimes it is not that clear what you are to do next, but isn’t brain bending challenges like that is what the genre fans are looking for?

The game relies on collecting various bits and bobs – cogs for the clock, flowers for a potion, coins for a machine – a bit too much, but does an excellent job of mixing up tasks so that it never feels repetitious.

The graphics, sounds, music, game story and game play make up for a good game, beautiful and challenging.

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Death in Bible versus Quran: Job and the Shadow of death (2)

October 30, 2010 by  
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Death in Bible versus Quran: Job and the Shadow of death (2)

Before dealing with this interesting subject, it should be emphasized that:

In the Bible, None knows the dimension of the earth, however, Scientists today know for sure the dimension of the earth.
The Biblical concept of the foundation of the earth is neither found in the Quran nor in modern sciences.
The Biblical concept of the Earth’s corner-stones is neither found in the Quran nor in modern sciences.
In the Bible, the death has a shadow; and this shadow has gates! 
The term “shadow of death” is not mentioned therein in the entire Quran.
Job in the Quran is not Job in the Bible.
Muslims respect equally all the Prophets sent by Allah.

 

 

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In the Bible: Job and the Shadow of death (2)

 

In the Bible (ASV), Death is mentioned 373 times; the Shadow of Death is mentioned 16 times.   In the Quran, Death is mentioned 34 times, and the Shadow of death is not found therein in the entire Quran.

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In the Bible, It is interesting that Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses etc. did not talk about the Shadow of death and it is only Job who talks about it.

 

Job, the Perfect Biblical man, said: although there is no violence in my hands, and my prayers are pure; however:

1)    God gives me up to the ungodly and casts me into the hands of the wicked,

2)    God broke me apart,

3)    God seized me by the neck,

4)    God dashed me to pieces,

5)    God set me up as his target,

6)    God’s archers surround me. He

7)    God slashes open my kidneys and does not spare,

8)    God pours out my gall bladder on the ground,

9)    God breaks me with breach upon breach,

10) God runs upon me like a warrior

 

Then Jehovah, the Lord God answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:

1) Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?

2)  Dress for action like a man; I will question you, and you make it known to me.

3) Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.

4) Who determined its measurements—surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it?

5) On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone,

6) When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

7) Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? Or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

 

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In the Quran: Job and the Shadow of death (2)

 

The Shadow of death is not mentioned in the Quran.

Job was a great Prophet. He had been afflicted with the loss of all of his possessions and children, the laceration of his body, his being shunned by all except his wife, for a period of about eighteen years, as well as the affliction of enduring a straitened means of livelihood.

 

Verse 4:163 says that Job is inspired as the prophets before and after him inspired too.

(Lo! We inspire you O Muhammad) We have sent Gabriel with the Quran as We inspired Noah, and the prophets after him, and, as, We revealed to Abraham and, his two sons, Ishmael and Isaac, and Jacob, the son of Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron, and Solomon, and We gave to, David the Inscribed Book, the Psalms.

 

It should be emphasized that Muslims respect equally all the Prophets sent by Allah.

 

In addition, Verses 38:41-43 briefly give  the story of Job and his oath.

The verses say:

And mention also our bondman Job, when he prayed and called out to his Lord, saying, ‘Lo! Satan has afflicted me with hardship, harm, and suffering.

Herein, Job attributes all his sickness to Satan, even though all things are from Allah, to show reverence in his call to Allah.

Then the Angel Gabriel said to him: O Job! Strike the ground with your foot; when he did so, a spring gushed out. Gabriel said to him: This spring is a cool bath, take a bath in it. When he took a bath his wounds healed. Gabriel asked him to strike the ground with his foot again and another spring gushed out. Gabriel said: and this is refreshing drink; this is cool, sweet water, drink from it! When he drank, his inside ailment was cured.

And Allah bestowed on Job again his household which Allah made to perish and therewith the like thereof in the life of this world and it is said in the Hereafter, a mercy and a blessing from Allah to Job, and a memorial, an admonition for men of understanding, for those possessed of intellect among people.

 

Hence, Job in the Quran is not Job in the Bible

He was steadfast and excellent in trial,
He was ever turning in repentance to Allah
He was ever obedient to Allah.  Indeed
He was a penitent soul and betaking himself to Allah’s obedience.
He never ever complained
He never ever talked rude to his Creator.

 

 

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The Bible:

 

Job 16:11-17 (New International Version)

11 God has turned me over to evil men and thrown me into the clutches of the wicked.

12 All was well with me, but he shattered me; he seized me by the neck and crushed me. He has made me his target;

13 his archers surround me. Without pity, he pierces my kidneys and spills my gall on the ground.

14 Again and again he burst upon me; he rushes at me like a warrior.

15 “I have sewed sackcloth over my skin and buried my brow in the dust.

16 My face is red with weeping; deep shadows ring my eyes;

17 yet my hands have been free of violence and my prayer is pure.

 

Job 24:14-17 (English Standard Version)

14The murderer rises before it is light that he may kill the poor and needy, and in the night he is like a thief.

15The eye of the adulterer also waits for the twilight, saying, ‘No eye will see me’; and he veils his face.

16In the dark they dig through houses; by day they shut themselves up; they do not know the light.

17For deep darkness is morning to all of them; for they are friends with the terrors of deep darkness.

 

Job 38:1-7 and 17 (American Standard Version)

1 Then Jehovah answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.

4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding.

5 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?

6 Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof,

7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

17Have the gates of death been revealed unto thee? Or hast thou seen the gates of the shadow of death?

 

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The Quran:

 

Verse 4:163 (Yusuf Ali Translation)

We have sent thee inspiration, as we sent it to Noah and the messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the tribes, to Jesus, job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David we gave the psalms.

 

Verses 38:41-43 (Yusuf Ali Translation)

﴿41﴾commemorate our servant job. Behold he cried to his lord: “the evil one has afflicted me with distress and suffering!”

﴿42﴾ (the command was given:) “strike with thy foot: here is (water) wherein to wash, cool and refreshing, and (water) to drink.”

﴿43﴾ and we gave him (back) his people, and doubled their number,- as a grace from ourselves, and a thing for commemoration, for all who have understanding.

 

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Back to my question to the smart and interested reader:

Are the Scholars truthful when they claim that the Quran quoted from the Bible?

Professor Dr. Ibrahim Khalil

Prof. of Clinical and Chemical Pathology, Head (ex-) of Clinical Microbiology and Infection Control Unit, Ain-Shams University. Cairo, Egypt.  President of the Egyptian Society of Inventors, Honorary President of SPIC-Egypt (The Society of Practitioners of Infection Control – Egypt), Co-Chief Editor of the Egyptian Journal of Lab. Medicine.  Member of the Egyptian union of Writers, Published 5 Books and some 60 Medical Articles, Supervisors for 79 PhD theses and111 Master Degree theses.